÷sgt supervisor elsbernd. >> supervisor elsbernd: thank%+q you, mr. president. a few questions. the first kind of follows up on the discussion that supervisors. in it supervisor wiener and you entered into a dialogue about the issue of this language being too vague, in your view that this language is too vague in the charter. just off the top, though, when i hear you argue that, was that not the exact argument that mr. mazzola made to the court, and argued that this language is too vague and the court itself found that, no, it's not? help me understand. >> well, so at the time the mazzola case was decided, the charter provided for removal for quote official misconduct, unquote. that's all. and in response to a void for vagueness challenge to that language the maz ol-a court decided, no, it's not unconstitutionally vague because we have all these cases and this developed body of law about what it is, what official misconduct is. and that's when they went on to say it's misconduct that occurs in office number one and relates to your duties. the part we object to is the subsequent